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Reply from : Jersey

Jersey — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:28:02 GMT

Doesn't the vaccine only prevent certain strains of HPV? If so, just like the flu shot, there is that chance of being exposed to the strains that the vaccines DON'T prevent.
The vaccine is a good idea in theory, but I think it was too rushed and pushed out sooner than it should have been.

There are around 130 different strains of HPV, 30-50 of them are known to typically transmit through sexual contact... but all of them can be transmitted through skin to skin contact AND by inanimate objects. What people don't realise that HPV causes nearly all of the various types of cervical cancer... NOT ALL.

From wikipedia:

Of the more than 100 known HPV types, 37 are known to be transmitted through sexual contact. Infection with sexually transmitted HPVs is very common in adult populations worldwide. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association and the American Social Health Association, by the age of 50 more than 80% of American women will have contracted at least one strain of HPV.^[3]^[4]^[5] Most people who contract the virus will not develop cervical cancer; however, each year between 250,000 and 1 million American women are diagnosed with cervical dysplasia, which is caused by HPV and is a potential precursor to cervical cancer.^[6] Cervical dysplasia may require treatment. In addition, 80% of deaths from cervical cancer occur in poor countries.^[7]

For these reasons, some public health officials recommend widespread vaccination against HPV.^[8]

Edited by Jersey on : 7/26/2008 2:34 PM

Reply from : delilah

delilah — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:00:12 GMT

Teenagers who choose to have sex are going to do it whether or not they get a vaccine, or have condoms readily available in schools. I never understood that line of thinking that a lot of parents have, because most teenagers are going to do whatever they want regardless. I'm sure I'm not the only person in the world who didn't obey my parents when they said "don't do this... or that".

Doesn't the vaccine only prevent certain strains of HPV? If so, just like the flu shot, there is that chance of being exposed to the strains that the vaccines DON'T prevent.
The vaccine is a good idea in theory, but I think it was too rushed and pushed out sooner than it should have been.

Reply from : lordsyrinex

lordsyrinex — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:53:53 GMT

I don't know, I just have a problem with doctors and vaccinations in general. I mean, they are shooting you up with dead cells of the same virus/sickness/illness they are trying to prevent, there has to be some risk where people WILL get the disease that they are trying to prevent. I know I've had similar issues where I tried to get a preventative shot and ended up where I had the disease I was trying to prevent and it sucks because even though you want to place the blame, there's no telling how long things have lie dormant inside of you with absolutely no side effects........

Reply from : Arin

Arin — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:10:27 GMT

Leila said:

Arin said:

What they are forgetting to mention is how many problems they have had with the vaccination and how they have no idea what the side effects are short-term or long-term...they just kinda released it, because it sounded like a good idea and are basically using us as test dummies haha. I had a friend rush out and get it and she's had nothing, but problems since...and I know someone else who had it and was just recently diagnosed with HPV, without even being sexually active hahaha.

Just because they say it's going to protect you from one thing, does not mean it will or not cause other problems.

Lets not forget that HPV can be spread through all kinds of ways, not just direct intercourse...and since it's so easy to pass on most people have it and don't even know it.

I got the shot basically when it first came out and didn't have any bad reaction to it. But just recently I had an abnormal pap smear and may now have cervical cancer (I still haven't gotten my results yet). I get tested annually for STD's and have never once come back posative for anything so I was really confused when my gyn told me I probably had HPV at some point. I did just start sleeping with someone new but honestly wouldn't be surprised if the damn shot gave me HPV. But at this point I guess I'll never know.

Yeah thats the worst part is you never really know where it came from, cause you could have had it way before and just didn't know it..because a lot of times it'll just sit there and not cause any abnormal reactions for a long time or ever. However that just makes me hate the damn shot even more hahaha

Reply from : Leila

Leila — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:07:48 GMT

Arin said:

Reply from : Leila

Leila — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:58:36 GMT

I like Colbert's comment on the whole "getting this vaccine will encourage girls to have sex" idea. On his show he said something like getting a tetanus shot makes him want to go chew on rusty nails. People have such backwards logic, especially when it comes to sex. If parents are really worried that their daughters will think it's ok to have unprotected sex just because they got a vaccine against HPV then why not just lie and say it's a vaccine for something else? Or better yet, fucking educate your kids on safer sex. But no, people can't do that, then we'd all just go to hell.

Reply from : Arin

Arin — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:52:01 GMT

Reply from : oly

oly — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:58:18 GMT

the published backlash i read sounds infinitely more dubious than merck or the fda could dream of. still it's hard to feel cozy with the pharmas.

Reply from : Raven

Raven — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:28:45 GMT

I'd have to agree. On the surface, this vaccine sounds like a wonderful thing. But I just don't know how much trust I'm willing to put in Merck. I'm not convinced yet that they've done enough testing on this vaccine to be able to offer proper assurances that it will have no serious long term side affects.

Reply from : oly

oly — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:57:13 GMT

yeah, it's funny to me. would you rather die or admit the possibility of pre-marital sex?
the vaccine actually sounds like a really good thing but it's really hard for me to trust merck and the fda.

Edited by oly on : 7/21/2008 11:59 AM

Reply from : Jersey

Jersey — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:20:24 GMT

Cervical cancer is the second most common cancer in British women under 35, killing about 1,000 women every year.

Girls between 12 and 18 are to being offered a controversial vaccine to protect them against the sexually-transmitted infection that can lead to cervical cancer, the Government has announced.

However... Controversy has raged about the core programme to routinely vaccinate 12 and 13-year-old girls, with some commentators arguing it encourages under-age sex.

But medics and health campaigners have accused such commentators of wilfully ignoring that teenage sex happens. They have said denying girls an HPV vaccine is morally wrong.

Some parents have already stopped their daughters having the vaccine on moral grounds, reducing the take-up rate in a pilot study to 80 per cent. Two schools out of 36 in the Greater Manchester study also refused to take part for religious reasons.

The vaccine must be administered before a person is infected. Because HPV is so common, that means vaccinating girls before they become sexually active. A study by the Health Protection Agency found up to age 14, less than five per cent of girls carry the HPV. But infection rates rise sharply after that as sexual activity increases.

Edited by Jersey on : 7/20/2008 3:30 PM